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Capital Punishment

Does capital punishment violate the idea that human life has infinite value?

Against capital punishment

Against capital punishment

  1. The value of human life is so high that one should not end a life for any reason, essential and important as that reason may seem.
  2.  The death penalty is a particularly cruel punishment, and it does not conform to the moral values ​​of a democratic society.
  3.  Capital punishment brings the risk of killing innocent people, a result that is irreversible and completely impossible to fix.
  4.  Capital punishment normalizes the use of force and violence to solve problems
For capital punishment

For capital punishment

  1. The death penalty is an appropriate consequence for particularly serious offenses, and it expresses society’s aversion to the act for which the punishment was imposed.

 

  1. The death penalty deters people from committing serious crimes.

 

  1. The death penalty allows loved ones of murder victims to feel a "closure" that enables them to overcome the psychological distress caused by the murder of a loved one, and to continue their lives.

 

  1. Capital punishment is necessary to protect people from criminals who may do harm to those around them, whether inside or outside prison.

סיכום ביניים

Are there cases in which the death penalty is a legitimate punishment, or is protecting human life always the supreme value?

הדיון המורחב

Opening Discussion

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does the order matter?

Jacob Friedman

תגובה אחת
  • x

    What do you mean does the order matter? These are the four forms from which you can kill, but you can use any of the four I belive

    Reena Zuckerman

x

This is basically saying that killing people will make people fear doing bad.

Jacob Friedman

תגובה אחת
  • x

    Yes, do you agree with that?

    Reena Zuckerman

x

 

Laws about sanctuary cities for man slaughters

you shall provide yourselves with places to serve you as cities of refuge to which a manslayer who has killed a person unintentionally may flee.

Anyone, however, who strikes another with an iron object so that death results is a murderer; the murderer must be put to death.

17

וְאִ֡ם בְּאֶ֣בֶן יָד֩ אֲשֶׁר־יָמ֨וּת בָּ֥הּ הִכָּ֛הוּ וַיָּמֹ֖ת רֹצֵ֣חַֽ ה֑וּא מ֥וֹת יוּמַ֖ת הָרֹצֵֽחַ׃

If he struck him with a stone tool that could cause death, and death resulted, he is a murderer; the murderer must be put to death.

18

א֡וֹ בִּכְלִ֣י עֵֽץ־יָד֩ אֲשֶׁר־יָמ֨וּת בּ֥וֹ הִכָּ֛הוּ וַיָּמֹ֖ת רֹצֵ֣חַֽ ה֑וּא מ֥וֹת יוּמַ֖ת הָרֹצֵֽחַ׃

Similarly, if the object with which he struck him was a wooden tool that could cause death, and death resulted, he is a murderer; the murderer must be put to death.

19

גֹּאֵ֣ל הַדָּ֔ם ה֥וּא יָמִ֖ית אֶת־הָרֹצֵ֑חַ בְּפִגְעוֹ־ב֖וֹ ה֥וּא יְמִיתֶֽנּוּ׃

The blood-avenger himself shall put the murderer to death; it is he who shall put him to death upon encounter.

20

וְאִם־בְּשִׂנְאָ֖ה יֶהְדָּפֶ֑נּוּ אֽוֹ־הִשְׁלִ֥יךְ עָלָ֛יו בִּצְדִיָּ֖ה וַיָּמֹֽת׃

So, too, if he pushed him in hate or hurled something at him on purpose and death resulted,

21

א֣וֹ בְאֵיבָ֞ה הִכָּ֤הוּ בְיָדוֹ֙ וַיָּמֹ֔ת מֽוֹת־יוּמַ֥ת הַמַּכֶּ֖ה רֹצֵ֣חַֽ ה֑וּא גֹּאֵ֣ל הַדָּ֗ם יָמִ֛ית אֶת־הָרֹצֵ֖חַ בְּפִגְעוֹ־בֽוֹ׃

or if he struck him with his hand in enmity and death resulted, the assailant shall be put to death; he is a murderer. The blood-avenger shall put the murderer to death upon encounter.

22

וְאִם־בְּפֶ֥תַע בְּלֹא־אֵיבָ֖ה הֲדָפ֑וֹ אוֹ־הִשְׁלִ֥יךְ עָלָ֛יו כָּל־כְּלִ֖י בְּלֹ֥א צְדִיָּֽה׃

But if he pushed him without malice aforethought or hurled any object at him unintentionally,

23

א֣וֹ בְכָל־אֶ֜בֶן אֲשֶׁר־יָמ֥וּת בָּהּ֙ בְּלֹ֣א רְא֔וֹת וַיַּפֵּ֥ל עָלָ֖יו וַיָּמֹ֑ת וְהוּא֙ לֹא־אוֹיֵ֣ב ל֔וֹ וְלֹ֥א מְבַקֵּ֖שׁ רָעָתֽוֹ׃

or inadvertently dropped upon him any deadly object of stone, and death resulted—though he was not an enemy of his and did not seek his harm—

24

וְשָֽׁפְטוּ֙ הָֽעֵדָ֔ה בֵּ֚ין הַמַּכֶּ֔ה וּבֵ֖ין גֹּאֵ֣ל הַדָּ֑ם עַ֥ל הַמִּשְׁפָּטִ֖ים הָאֵֽלֶּה׃

in such cases the assembly shall decide between the slayer and the blood-avenger.

25

וְהִצִּ֨ילוּ הָעֵדָ֜ה אֶת־הָרֹצֵ֗חַ מִיַּד֮ גֹּאֵ֣ל הַדָּם֒ וְהֵשִׁ֤יבוּ אֹתוֹ֙ הָֽעֵדָ֔ה אֶל־עִ֥יר מִקְלָט֖וֹ אֲשֶׁר־נָ֣ס שָׁ֑מָּה וְיָ֣שַׁב בָּ֗הּ עַד־מוֹת֙ הַכֹּהֵ֣ן הַגָּדֹ֔ל אֲשֶׁר־מָשַׁ֥ח אֹת֖וֹ בְּשֶׁ֥מֶן הַקֹּֽדֶשׁ׃

The assembly shall protect the manslayer from the blood-avenger, and the assembly shall restore him to the city of refuge to which he fled, and there he shall remain until the death of the high priest who was anointed with the sacred oil.

26

וְאִם־יָצֹ֥א יֵצֵ֖א הָרֹצֵ֑חַ אֶת־גְּבוּל֙ עִ֣יר מִקְלָט֔וֹ אֲשֶׁ֥ר יָנ֖וּס שָֽׁמָּה׃

But if the manslayer ever goes outside the limits of the city of refuge to which he has fled,

27

וּמָצָ֤א אֹתוֹ֙ גֹּאֵ֣ל הַדָּ֔ם מִח֕וּץ לִגְב֖וּל עִ֣יר מִקְלָט֑וֹ וְרָצַ֞ח גֹּאֵ֤ל הַדָּם֙ אֶת־הָ֣רֹצֵ֔חַ אֵ֥ין ל֖וֹ דָּֽם׃

and the blood-avenger comes upon him outside the limits of his city of refuge, and the blood-avenger kills the manslayer, there is no bloodguilt on his account.

28

כִּ֣י בְעִ֤יר מִקְלָטוֹ֙ יֵשֵׁ֔ב עַד־מ֖וֹת הַכֹּהֵ֣ן הַגָּדֹ֑ל וְאַחֲרֵ֥י מוֹת֙ הַכֹּהֵ֣ן הַגָּדֹ֔ל יָשׁוּב֙ הָרֹצֵ֔חַ אֶל־אֶ֖רֶץ אֲחֻזָּתֽוֹ׃

For he must remain inside his city of refuge until the death of the high priest; after the death of the high priest, the manslayer may return to his land holding.

29

וְהָי֨וּ אֵ֧לֶּה לָכֶ֛ם לְחֻקַּ֥ת מִשְׁפָּ֖ט לְדֹרֹתֵיכֶ֑ם בְּכֹ֖ל מוֹשְׁבֹתֵיכֶֽם׃

Such shall be your law of procedure throughout the ages in all your settlements.

30

כָּל־מַ֨כֵּה־נֶ֔פֶשׁ לְפִ֣י עֵדִ֔ים יִרְצַ֖ח אֶת־הָרֹצֵ֑חַ וְעֵ֣ד אֶחָ֔ד לֹא־יַעֲנֶ֥ה בְנֶ֖פֶשׁ לָמֽוּת׃

If anyone kills a person, the manslayer may be executed only on the evidence of witnesses; the testimony of a single witness against a person shall not suffice for a sentence of death.

31

וְלֹֽא־תִקְח֥וּ כֹ֙פֶר֙ לְנֶ֣פֶשׁ רֹצֵ֔חַ אֲשֶׁר־ה֥וּא רָשָׁ֖ע לָמ֑וּת כִּי־מ֖וֹת יוּמָֽת׃

You may not accept a ransom for the life of a murderer who is guilty of a capital crime; he must be put to death.

32

וְלֹא־תִקְח֣וּ כֹ֔פֶר לָנ֖וּס אֶל־עִ֣יר מִקְלָט֑וֹ לָשׁוּב֙ לָשֶׁ֣בֶת בָּאָ֔רֶץ עַד־מ֖וֹת הַכֹּהֵֽן׃

Nor may you accept ransom in lieu of flight to a city of refuge, enabling one to return to live on his land before the death of the priest.

33

וְלֹֽא־תַחֲנִ֣יפוּ אֶת־הָאָ֗רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֤ר אַתֶּם֙ בָּ֔הּ כִּ֣י הַדָּ֔ם ה֥וּא יַחֲנִ֖יף אֶת־הָאָ֑רֶץ וְלָאָ֣רֶץ לֹֽא־יְכֻפַּ֗ר לַדָּם֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר שֻׁפַּךְ־בָּ֔הּ כִּי־אִ֖ם בְּדַ֥ם שֹׁפְכֽוֹ׃

You shall not pollute the land in which you live; for blood pollutes the land, and the land can have no expiation for blood that is shed on it, except by the blood of him who shed it.

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וְלֹ֧א תְטַמֵּ֣א אֶת־הָאָ֗רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֤ר אַתֶּם֙ יֹשְׁבִ֣ים בָּ֔הּ אֲשֶׁ֥ר אֲנִ֖י שֹׁכֵ֣ן בְּתוֹכָ֑הּ כִּ֚י אֲנִ֣י יְהוָ֔ה שֹׁכֵ֕ן בְּת֖וֹךְ בְּנֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵֽל׃ (פ)

You shall not defile the land in which you live, in which I Myself abide, for I the LORD abide among the Israelite people.

He who fatally strikes a man shall be put to death.

 

Reena Zuckerman

תגובה אחת
  • Reena Zuckerman

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I would look to the Talmud, midrash and poskim for how these psukim are practically applied. Some of these specifics may not necessarily apply when the beis din does not have the power to enforce them (such as in the US under our legal system)

The Torah (both shebichtav and sheb’al-peh) does have a framework for capital punishment, but I don’t know how much of it applies in situations when the Jewish community is subject to a just government that has different laws

The aveirah of avodah zara is yehareg v’al yaavor, meaning that one is obligated to die rather than transgress it.

Elazar Cramer

Elazar Cramer

Elazar Cramer

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Elazar Cramer
22.05.2017 21:17
The Torah (both shebichtav and sheb’al-peh)
does have a framework for capital punishment.

I would look to the Talmud, midrash and poskim
for how these psukim are practically applied.
Some of these specifics may not necessarily apply
when the beis din does not have the power to enforce them
(such as in the US under our legal system),

The aveirah of avodah zara is yehareg v’al yaavor,
meaning that one is obligated to die rather than transgress it.

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Reena Zuckerman
22.05.2017 21:26
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Reena Zuckerman
1.05.2017 21:27

Yes, do you agree with that?

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Reena Zuckerman
1.05.2017 21:27

What do you mean does the order matter?
These are the four forms from which you can kill,
but you can use any of the four I belive

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Jacob Friedman
1.05.2017 21:26

This is basically saying that killing people will make people fear doing bad.

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Jacob Friedman
1.05.2017 21:24

does the order matter?

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